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Rachel --- 15 years ago -

I would flip out if this were my daughter  

PunkaRoo --- 15 years ago -

omfg that is sooo wrong. 

JMunderscore --- 15 years ago -

I don't really see that they did anything wrong. Seems like they're following the laws. I find it odd that a highschool has that type of facility 

brieeeeee --- 15 years ago -

so did the school pay for it? 

PunkaRoo --- 15 years ago -

Shes 15 she needs her PARENTS permisson. until shes 16 or 17. 

JMunderscore --- 15 years ago -

Shes 15 she needs her PARENTS permisson. until shes 16 or 17. Under Washington state law, parental consent is not required when providing health care to minors, even when that care includes abortion. "Minors may receive an abortion and abortion-related services at any age without the consent of a parent, guardian or the father of the child," the law states. Minors who are older than 13 can also receive testing for sexually transmitted diseases, both inpatient and outpatient mental health care, and prenatal care without having parental consent, under the law.  

Rachel --- 15 years ago -

She is still just a child her parents didnt know what was going on. That is a decision should have been made by her parents not the school 

JMunderscore --- 15 years ago -

She is still just a child her parents didnt know what was going on. That is a decision should have been made by her parents not the school Not in the eyes of the law. The girl made her own decision in the end, the school or teen health center didn't. I'm sure she knew what was up when she went. Her mom is probably in shock that her kid was even having sex to begin with 

PunkaRoo --- 15 years ago -

I agree. i got preg at 16 and was told i could get an abortion but only with my parents permission. Granted i was in MA. Plus is MA it you couldnt have sex until you were 16. 15 you get introuble but 16s ok.!? I Obviously didnt get one nor would i ever. i couldnt live with killing a baby. Id hate myself. My friends cousin got one, and regrets it to this day. There is always adoption. 

Rachel --- 15 years ago -

Not in the eyes of the law. The girl made her own decision in the end, the school or teen health center didn't. I'm sure she knew what was up when she went. Her mom is probably in shock that her kid was even having sex to begin with So if your daughter came home from school and said she had an abortion at school that day you wouldnt be upset? I am not saying it was wrong for her to get an abortion that is her choice. But her parents should have been involved. 

JMunderscore --- 15 years ago -

So if your daughter came home from school and said she had an abortion at school that day you wouldnt be upset? I am not saying it was wrong for her to get an abortion that is her choice. But her parents should have been involved. Of course I'd be upset but what would I be able to do about it? Nothing, is what. That would have to be something my daughter and I would have to work out. Now the mom is going around blasting to the world that her daughter had an abortion and blaming everyone but the teenage thumpers. I bet her daughter feels like even more shit now that her business is being spread around town thanks to good ol mom. There's nothing the mom can legally do about it. She's just making it worse for her family. When is comes down to it, the school and the facility did absolutely nothing wrong 

Mala Nova --- 15 years ago -

I think what she did was best for her in her eyes. As a mother you should understand your child may not want a child. You can't force someone to have a baby. 

PunkaRoo --- 15 years ago -

but why keep it a secret, why not tel mom and then they could get it and shes have that mental support, why say oh we will pay for it just dont tell your mom,.. sounds sketchy. Watch Principal or the counsular is the daddy. 

Rachel --- 15 years ago -

I bet her daughter feels like even more shit now that her business is being spread around town thanks to good ol mom. You are right on that her mom shouldn't have went around telling anyone it isn't anyones buisness. I do think that the school was wrong though, maybe not legally but it is not their place to offer something like an abortion to their students. 

Mala Nova --- 15 years ago -

There's no way in hell I would have told my folks at that age that I was pregnant. My parents would have kicked my ass and probably disowned me. 

JMunderscore --- 15 years ago -

why not tel mom and then they could get it and shes have that mental support, why say oh we will pay for it just dont tell your mom,.. sounds sketchy. Watch Principal or the counsular is the daddy. Maybe her mom has been preaching abstenance from day one or she's heard her mom degrade teen parents from day one. We don't know how exactly the mom found out. It might be a case of the girl knowing that if she told her mom she wanted an abortion she wouldn't let her leave the house. So the girl waited until afterwards. There are too many unknowns and with the way the mom is in an uproar I wouldn't doubt there being some weird phsycologial stuff in their home 

miss parker --- 15 years ago -

personally i agree with the child's decision to abort. but that's just me. the idea of a teen being pregnant disgusts me. i am in no way saying they can't be good parents, i just don't respect their decision to have sex or to end up parenting at that age. bash me if you want. its just how i personally feel about it. 

Mala Nova --- 15 years ago -

personally i agree with the child's decision to abort. but that's just me. the idea of a teen being pregnant disgusts me. i am in no way saying they can't be good parents, i just don't respect their decision to have sex or to end up parenting at that age. bash me if you want. its just how i personally feel about it. I agree. 

JMunderscore --- 15 years ago -

I do think that the school was wrong though, maybe not legally but it is not their place to offer something like an abortion to their students. The teen health center offered the abortion not the school. Kind of like how Planned Parenthood happens to be conveniently located right next to Austin Peay. The mom signed a permission form allowing the child to go to the health center 

Supervillain --- 15 years ago -

but why keep it a secret, why not tel mom and then they could get it and shes have that mental support, why say oh we will pay for it just dont tell your mom,.. sounds sketchy. Watch Principal or the counsular is the daddy. Agreed. Everyone can quote obscure laws with convenient little loopholes all they want, but the fact of the matter is that she's still a minor, and the parent should have some say in her life until she's an adult. Would it have cost the school anything to give the mother a heads-up? And while we're on the subject of seemingly optional rules, since when do high schools have a policy that allows students to leave campus whenever they want? I'd be disgusted with either of my daughters telling me they got an abortion. Not as much in the whole murder aspect, but the irresponsibility of the whole thing. She can go off and have a perfectly preventable mistake sucked out of her without having ever bothered taking the preventative measures first? What lesson is that teaching her? And it's in that spirit that I would be as vocal as her mother's being. I'd hope I was humiliating my kid, since it seems to be the only punishment she's (and every other parent) legally able to inflict nowadays. 

Rachel --- 15 years ago -

Agreed. Everyone can quote obscure laws with convenient little loopholes all they want, but the fact of the matter is that she's still a minor, and the parent should have some say in her life until she's an adult. Would it have cost the school anything to give the mother a heads-up? And while we're on the subject of seemingly optional rules, since when do high schools have a policy that allows students to leave campus whenever they want? I'd be disgusted with either of my daughters telling me they got an abortion. Not as much in the whole murder aspect, but the irresponsibility of the whole thing. She can go off and have a perfectly preventable mistake sucked out of her without having ever bothered taking the preventative measures first? What lesson is that teaching her? And it's in that spirit that I would be as vocal as her mother's being. I'd hope I was humiliating my kid, since it seems to be the only punishment she's (and every other parent) legally able to inflict nowadays. Well said 

miss parker --- 15 years ago -

i am 100% pro choice. and even at 25, if i got pregnant now, and the time wasn't right, i would consider abortion. i do take all steps needed to prevent it. but if i ended up pregnant at a time where financially, career wise or mentally it wasn't the right time i would most likely abort. sounds cruel and sickens most, but at least i admit it. 

JMunderscore --- 15 years ago -

Another articlenull Jill says her daughter, a pro-life advocate, I'm guessing momma is pro-life not the kid. Clearly the kid is Pro-choice. No wonder she did it all without telling her mom and her mom is so pissed 

angel --- 15 years ago -

I agree with Amber on this one. Legal or no, it is not the place of the school to facilitate an abortion. What if it's against their religion, too? If you're old enough to spread your legs, then you need to woman up if it comes to that. And kids are stupid. They do sh!t without thinking it through, and often regret it later. 

JMunderscore --- 15 years ago -

it is not the place of the school to facilitate an abortion. The school did NOT facilitate abortion. The health center and school are two different things. The health center which is run by Swedish Medical Center facilitated the treatment. In the end the mother gave her permission for the child to attend the teen health center and from there it was the health center's responsibility to provide the care which the patient needed/wanted assistance with. Nowhere does it say this couldn't have all gone down during lunch or nonclass hours 

angel --- 15 years ago -

It was on school property. The school should have guidelines for what should and should not be done by someone who basically represents them. Facilitating abortion without so much as notifying the parents should be one of those things. It's innapropriate for school grounds. Period. 

Supervillain --- 15 years ago -

Nowhere does it say this couldn't have all gone down during lunch or nonclass hours It says it right here: Jill says her daughter, a pro-life advocate, was given a pass, put in a taxi and sent off to have an abortion during school hours all without her family knowing. So again I ask, why was this okay to let a student off school grounds without the parent's permission? If I send my kid to school, I'd be fucking livid if I was told that one of them just got into a car and nobody stopped them. 

angel --- 15 years ago -

No, the school is not entirely to blame. I think that if a service as serious as abortion is offered, that should be outlined specifically. It seems that's kinda why the mom is making such a huff. More to say to everyone "Hey, you know that consent form you signed? Guess wat they can do...". And that the school should cover their azz better by outlining that. 

angel --- 15 years ago -

I guess the big thing is that who figures their kid can go through the school clinic to get an abortion, ya know? Of course not everything will be listed, but something like that should be specified. 

JMunderscore --- 15 years ago -

Jill says her daughter, a pro-life advocate, was given a pass, put in a taxi and sent off to have an abortion during school hours all without her family knowing. So again I ask, why was this okay to let a student off school grounds without the parent's permission? If I send my kid to school, I'd be fucking livid if I was told that one of them just got into a car and nobody stopped them. During school hours includes lunchtime and breaks. The high school I went to had offcampus lunch and an open campus policy for students whom fit a criteria. I think mostly of all this was a case of the parent signing permission without asking questions. As a parent, its your responsibility to be fully aware of what you are signing 

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